Scott Meyers wants to bring default zero-initialization to C++, mentions TDPL for precedent

[Chris Wright via Digitalmars-d]

On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 16:48:06 +0000, Chris wrote:

> On Friday, 20 November 2015 at 16:38:02 UTC, Chris Wright wrote:
>> On Fri, 20 Nov 2015 12:12:41 +0000, Chris wrote:
>>
>>> On Wednesday, 18 November 2015 at 19:09:48 UTC, Ola Fosheim Grøstad
>>> wrote:
>>>> On Wednesday, 18 November 2015 at 18:52:02 UTC, Jack Stouffer wrote:
>>>>> For those of you who have never had the pleasure of writing PHP,
>>>>> lots of PHP code does completely different things depending on the
>>>>> compiler switches when the interpreter was
>>>>
>>>> Php is a dynamic language, that's different.
>>> 
>>> Would you guys please stop calling PHP a language. JS and PHP are not
>>> languages, they are a fiddly feckin mess, which accounts for their
>>> high adoption rate. Sigh. Please, no gainsaying now, no "Yes, buts".
>>
>> I'd rather limit the number of posts on this forum that contain
>> contempt or dismissiveness. It's unfriendly and doesn't help anything.
> 
> Now, now, no need to feel offended.

No need to be condescending to me, either.

I want this newsgroup to be helpful and friendly in its attitude. I think 
that's a reasonable goal, and I think most people here would agree that 
it would be good if that goal were achieved.

When people complain about others being offended, it's usually to 
distract from the issue at hand. So let me say it straight: it doesn't 
matter whether I'm offended. It only matters what effect your words have 
on people.

> Bashing programming languages is
> part of programming. Never read any of those "Why [Python|PHP|JS|C++...]
> sucks" articles on the internet? I've had the misfortune of having to
> work with PHP and JS, and no shaming me will ever convince me that they
> are serious languages. Anyway,
> D is being bashed here all the time, haven't you noticed ;)